Ozgirl Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 The tide is turning. Jarryd Hayne jailed for sexually assaulting woman on night of 2018 NRL grand finalhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-06/jarryd-hayne-sentenced-for-sexual-assault/100120002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A letter to elise Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happydaisy Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Its great would have loved to see him get the whole 14 years. The survivor was so brave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Yes its sad that him getting any jail time is enough to make me happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happydaisy Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Yes its sad that him getting any jail time is enough to make me happy. Don’t worry i was happy too we have to take the wins where we can get them unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 I dont understand his wife standing by him.Rape or not is she okay with him sleeping around? Im hoping it was for optics. And that she leaves him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrannySmith Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Bicycle Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Jarrad is ultra relgious, think Israel Folou religious.Stands to reason, she's religious too. You know the I am the subservient wife to my husband and the pecking order is God- husband- wife?Plus she has had a child to him ( although out of wedlock, so maybe not so good Christians).We don't know what happens at home. She could be a victim too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Yes this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la di dah Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I would think there's a pretty massive difference between rape and sleeping around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It's amazing how many rapists and child abusers have their wife/girlfriend with them in court. It's just unfathomable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadto2 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Does anyone know what is meant when they said in the press the police controlled the text messages the victim sent to JH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter frost Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It's amazing how many rapists and child abusers have their wife/girlfriend with them in court. It's just unfathomable. It’s interesting. I am in the camp that everyone needs support, but in the context of his outburst yest I would find it fairly untenable. Be interesting to see if she waits the 3-4 years.I really do hope these high profile cases help men be better educated about what consent really means. I hope it leads fathers to have more and better conversation soon with their sons.. Although clearly Haynes still doesn’t understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Does anyone know what is meant when they said in the press the police controlled the text messages the victim sent to JH? What did they say exactly? Was it about gathering evidence? They might have had her text/call him to see if he would admit guilt to her or apologise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It's amazing how many rapists and child abusers have their wife/girlfriend with them in court. It's just unfathomable. It’s interesting. I am in the camp that everyone needs support, but in the context of his outburst yest I would find it fairly untenable. Be interesting to see if she waits the 3-4 years.I really do hope these high profile cases help men be better educated about what consent really means. I hope it leads fathers to have more and better conversation soon with their sons.. Although clearly Haynes still doesn’t understand. Everyone needs support at their rape trial? Yeahhhhh nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadto2 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Does anyone know what is meant when they said in the press the police controlled the text messages the victim sent to JH? What did they say exactly? Was it about gathering evidence? They might have had her text/call him to see if he would admit guilt to her or apologise. I'm trying to find the article. The impression I got was that they were essentially telling her what to write in the hope they would elicit a specific response from him, incriminating him further. It's obviously legal otherwise it wouldn't have been permitted, (Note, I believe he deserves jail time), but this just struck me as odd especially when it played a critical part in getting a conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antifa Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 This is what accountability looks like. Sadly, there seems to be a lot of denial not only with Hayne but also his revolting supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Bicycle Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It's amazing how many rapists and child abusers have their wife/girlfriend with them in court. It's just unfathomable. It’s interesting. I am in the camp that everyone needs support, but in the context of his outburst yest I would find it fairly untenable. Be interesting to see if she waits the 3-4 years.I really do hope these high profile cases help men be better educated about what consent really means. I hope it leads fathers to have more and better conversation soon with their sons.. Although clearly Haynes still doesn’t understand. Everyone needs support at their rape trial? Yeahhhhh nah Occassionally there has been cases of people being innocent of a rape ( it's a fabrication) but I would really hope the Police and Prosecutors wouldn't let those get anywhere near a trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It’s interesting. I am in the camp that everyone needs support, but in the context of his outburst yest I would find it fairly untenable. Be interesting to see if she waits the 3-4 years.I really do hope these high profile cases help men be better educated about what consent really means. I hope it leads fathers to have more and better conversation soon with their sons.. Although clearly Haynes still doesn’t understand. Everyone needs support at their rape trial? Yeahhhhh nah Occassionally there has been cases of people being innocent of a rape ( it's a fabrication) but I would really hope the Police and Prosecutors wouldn't let those get anywhere near a trial. They don't - they can't. If there's no evidence of a crime then the OPP won't try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Does anyone know what is meant when they said in the press the police controlled the text messages the victim sent to JH? What did they say exactly? Was it about gathering evidence? They might have had her text/call him to see if he would admit guilt to her or apologise. I'm trying to find the article. The impression I got was that they were essentially telling her what to write in the hope they would elicit a specific response from him, incriminating him further. It's obviously legal otherwise it wouldn't have been permitted, (Note, I believe he deserves jail time), but this just struck me as odd especially when it played a critical part in getting a conviction. It's legal and it's pretty common. In cases that are very he said/she said, and the point of law isn't whether it happened but whether he knew she wasn't consenting when it happened, they often suggest the victim approach the offender and talk to him about it. They don't trick him into anything; it's not dodgy. But if he says sorry, or something like "yeah I knew you didn't want to but I thought you'd like it anyway" or "haha fuck you; you can't prove I knew" or something like that then it can make their case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter frost Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It’s interesting. I am in the camp that everyone needs support, but in the context of his outburst yest I would find it fairly untenable. Be interesting to see if she waits the 3-4 years.I really do hope these high profile cases help men be better educated about what consent really means. I hope it leads fathers to have more and better conversation soon with their sons.. Although clearly Haynes still doesn’t understand. Everyone needs support at their rape trial? Yeahhhhh nah Occassionally there has been cases of people being innocent of a rape ( it's a fabrication) but I would really hope the Police and Prosecutors wouldn't let those get anywhere near a trial. To be clear. I don’t believe he is innocent. But I am not going to criticise his wife for attending court with him and sitting quietly. I have no idea about her or her life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Well if your loved one is accused and you truly think they’re innocent. I can see that at the very first stages, like the arrest, and the shock of it all. And of course many/most crooks are very manipulative. But at the point where you've heard all the evidence and he's been convicted, no. I don't sympathise with someone who would choose to believe him at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley225 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I'd find it hard as a partner but surely family members would still want to be there no matter what they'd done. Doesn't mean they codone it but it's still their son etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly_F Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It’s so very easy to criticise people who support perps but unless you have been in that situation, you really don’t get it. It’s never as easy or as straightforward as it looks from the outside - never! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono67 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Good. But I doubt he'll spend that long in jail unfortunately. He'll be out in a few months because of overcrowding or his safety or some other rot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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