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'The women's budget' - Budget 2021


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It's not just making women the sole people responsible for childcare. Structurally it will make things worse for those with one child or who come through in the future and want a family.

 

 

Also for those of us who have one child in childcare, and older kids in OSCH. The childcare cost will go up but the subsidies for us wont.

 

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It's a terrible policy and as per usual the biggest beneficiaries will be high income earners, with the removal of the cap.

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It's not just making women the sole people responsible for childcare. Structurally it will make things worse for those with one child or who come through in the future and want a family.

 

 

Also for those of us who have one child in childcare, and older kids in OSCH. The childcare cost will go up but the subsidies for us wont.

 

Correct.


It's a terrible policy and as per usual the biggest beneficiaries will be high income earners, with the removal of the cap.

 

I really would like to see them address the issues that make childcare unaffordable for some people with 2 or more young kids. But how to do that better?

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If it doesn't cover OOSH,, hardly anyone will see any benefit, or only for a very short time .Same with the single parent housing thing. Just about no one will fit the criteria but it sounds good while inflating the housing bubble a little more and increasing homelessness for the majority of single parents.


The DV funding is similarly threadbare. Never any funding for actual interventions i.e. increasing the social housing stock and more intensive DV specialist support workers to support the families.


Just prevention whereby no doubt girls at school will be told to keep their milkshakes and tacos to themselves in some ideological gambit of whataboutism.


Again, noting to make a difference at the pointy end - like looking at the glaring gaps in the system and why those systems fail so many. The whole country can see where the system fails but absolutely nothing to change it.


************ discusses failures of systems for survivors




Why no matter how much training they receive police continue to ignore women who repeatedly turn to them for assistance with tragic outcomes like happened in Qld the other week, why judges in the family court system make orders for immediate contact with perpetrators who've just been released from jail for dv as happenned in SA the other week and why if an indigenous woman calls police for assistance with dv they're more than likely to end up under arrest as the perpetrator and die unattended in a lockup for unpaid fines as had happened in several states recently.


Police and judges need a freaking axe dangling over their heads to force them to do the right thing i.e. if a woman who turns to them for assistance shows up dead and the police didn't take out an order or enforce an existing order it's instant dismissal. Same for FCC judges. You force a woman who's saying it's not safe for thier kids to have contact and there's a reasonable record of the abuse you ignored i.e. perp has been to jail for it, it should be instant dismissal if anything happens to those kids during contact.


If teachers and welfare workers can have all kinds of accountability axes hanging over them, why are the justice professionals too precious to regulate?

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Also for those of us who have one child in childcare, and older kids in OSCH. The childcare cost will go up but the subsidies for us wont.

 

Correct.


It's a terrible policy and as per usual the biggest beneficiaries will be high income earners, with the removal of the cap.

 

I really would like to see them address the issues that make childcare unaffordable for some people with 2 or more young kids. But how to do that better?

I wonder if we need to look at a scheme similar to what the Catholic schools used to do. First child - full fees. Second child - fee reduction of x amount. Third child fee reduction of y (bigger than x) and fourth + child free. Once the first kid finishes everyone moves up a position.

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Correct.


It's a terrible policy and as per usual the biggest beneficiaries will be high income earners, with the removal of the cap.

 

I really would like to see them address the issues that make childcare unaffordable for some people with 2 or more young kids. But how to do that better?

I wonder if we need to look at a scheme similar to what the Catholic schools used to do. First child - full fees. Second child - fee reduction of x amount. Third child fee reduction of y (bigger than x) and fourth + child free. Once the first kid finishes everyone moves up a position.

 

I've been similar to you, sitting around trying to brainstorm how the Lib policy could be better, then out of curiosity I googled Labor's policy because I realised I was hazy on the details because of the hugely unequal coverage..


From what I can tell, it seems to go further than those modest hopes you mention . They're saying they'll lift the max subsidy to a 90% rebate, scrap the cap which punishes parents for taking on an extra day's work and increase the subsidy rates for everyone with household income under 500k. Which would be almost everyone, I'd think. The few who miss out aren't going to be in the position of childcare costs being a make or break factor in getting back to work.


It's not a policy area I have my head around particularly well but it seems like it would actually enable people to minimise their time out of the workforce, instead of sneakily railroading (mostly) women into sitting on the sidelines longer by economic incentives to have babies close together.

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The budget reply was better than I had anticipated. I’m pleased about the additional low cost and emergency housing, but torn regarding the assumption that it’s going to be women and children once again being forced out of the family home.

 

It's horribly unjust but in the most high risk situations it's often unsafe to stay because he's lived there for years, feels ownership and entitlement over the house and knows every security flaw in the place. Some of these things can be good in theory but a bad risk in practice, especially with slow police response times to take into account.

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There were gaping holes in the budget.

Gender bias against families where the woman is the higher earner

Nothing on climate change

Not enough on DV which is one of the biggest problems in our country

Nothing for the wine and other industries which have been decimated by China


The sooner these ignorant tossers are out, the better.

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It’s in relation to the paid parental scheme and the tests, the budget should have fixed this inequity.


You have two families.


Family One - the male earns $500,000 a year and the female earns $75,000. This family is eligible for the Government’s Paid Parental Leave Scheme.


Family Two - the female earns $160,000 a year and the male earns $90,000. This family is not eligible for the Government’s Paid Parental Leave Scheme, despite having a combined family income far less the Family One.


Linking the test to the females income and making leave only accessible by the female, unfairly punishes families where the female is the family’s breadwinner.

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