Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) The White House contact form now has preferred pronouns. Including they/them and other.Lyle Shelton is not happy. I dare say lots of other people are not happy either, but I'm pretty fucking happy about it.https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/Edit: Name of thread changed as the subject matter has varied considerably. Edited January 24, 2021 by Bad Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bethlehem Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 How wonderful. Should be bloody standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Yeah, totally should. But it's haaaarrrdd to update our system. Took the WH less than a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Locking for mod/admin review. Unlocked as someone was available for discussion straight away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Thank you for unlocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 I applied for a government job the other day and it didn't offer me pronoun options. It's really not good enough. But I don't expect it to change under the current government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just checked Aus Parliament contact form. No pronoun options. Titles are Mr, Mrs, Ms, Dr, Not Disclosed. Mx would be nice addition.Or they could ditch the titles altogether. Or put them as purely optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Yes optional would be nice. Working with childrens check has 'other' at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Imagine if our government was forward thinking enough that they didn't require a gender identifier for a child who can't yet even speak. Not that a 17yo can't speak, but we're out here tagging gender from the start.Which reminds me, I saw a brilliant gender reveal party the other day. For a 17 year old. The mum was all like "Well I got it wrong the first time...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I was sorting out DS1’s tax file number earlier this week, and they only had Master or Miss for under 18s. Very disappointing. On this...About 20yrs ago I was forced to be a Ms, because apparently only children could be Miss. This was by an airline. Back when Ms had the connotations of an uppity notion If women have to have multiple thing to choose from at least let us choose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 That's wild. Gender based titles are outdated and unnecessary. White House contact page has Mr, Ms, Mrs, Dr, Mx, Other (please specify), None. Not even a Miss option, lol. I think the Mrs option will have to die a natural death though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Yep, im actually all for Miss and Mister for kids.Ms and Master for kid and Ms and Mr for adults. No Mrs at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Tightpants Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I was sorting out DS1’s tax file number earlier this week, and they only had Master or Miss for under 18s. Very disappointing. That is very strange. My 14yo daughters applied for theirs and were able to choose Ms... I actually just checked their letter advising of the TFN and it definitely says Ms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 I stopped using Mrs while I was still married. It pissed me off that tradies and salespeople would ask to speak to my husband as though I was incapable of making a decision.I've also largely stopped using a gender identifier wherever possible. None of their damn business in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Might depend what site you used. If you go direct through ATO website you should be able use Ms. But there are other sites that you can apply through and they may not offer it for under 18s. Usually sites like that charge a fee though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeAl Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 My published work regarding bees uses Mr. How did that come about?I didn't know publications even used titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Swanson Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 The ATO definitely has options for those under 18They can even choose Rev or Prof.https://i.imgur.com/w99xMp4.png' alt='IMGUR>'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 The White House contact form now has preferred pronouns. Including they/them and other.Lyle Shelton is not happy. I dare say lots of other people are not happy either, but I'm pretty fucking happy about it.https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ Lyle is going to be even more unhappy when he reads the Executive Orderhttps://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-preventing-and-combating-discrimination-on-basis-of-gender-identity-or-sexual-orientation/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeritasVinumArte Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I prefer not to use Titles. My name is my name, no need for a Title unless it actually represented something (Like Duchess of Chaos where I lived in a big castle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Duchess of Chaos.... love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePaperFrog Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I've gotten rid of all titles on our company forms. Also sex.Really no need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuffed Olive Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I have always used my own name, but it seems that folks just can't help themselves. Some of the more prissy English friends insist on writing to and referring to us as Mr and Mrs, even though they know I have never called myself Mrs. I go to appointments and they call for "Mrs Olive?" and I sit there wondering when I turned into my mother.Even sillier, my husband gets called Mr Olive, not that he cares, his surname is trickier than mine! I don't suppose the contents of Lyle Shelton's had will make much mess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Cat Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 The White House contact form now has preferred pronouns. Including they/them and other.Lyle Shelton is not happy. I dare say lots of other people are not happy either, but I'm pretty fucking happy about it.https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ Lyle is going to be even more unhappy when he reads the Executive Orderhttps://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-preventing-and-combating-discrimination-on-basis-of-gender-identity-or-sexual-orientation/ Oh this is brilliant. I wish Australia had a Joe instead of a Scott.The comparison between that Exec Order and our Religious Discrimination Bill is stark and appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucrezia Borgia Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 My published work regarding bees uses Mr. How did that come about?I didn't know publications even used titles. I write under an assumed name as Mr X Lastname for a couple of private magazines. Agribusiness is very conservative and tends to insist on titles. really, wow. i would never cosy up to conservatives like that - I’d find a different agribusiness magazine to publish my articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley225 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just checked Aus Parliament contact form. No pronoun options. Titles are Mr, Mrs, Ms, Dr, Not Disclosed. Mx would be nice addition.Or they could ditch the titles altogether. Or put them as purely optional. We had a communication (APS) some years ago now from the attorney general that standard gov mail should be addressed to names only - no longer using Mr, Ms etc. It will just be dear John and addressed to John Smith.So forms should not be asking for an honorific. Some systems and forms have not been updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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