Is “modesty” problematic?

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marple wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:34 am If its anything like it was when I was there, then yes there were a lot of lovely male teachers, but quite a few that accidentally drop things very regularly
Are you serious???
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LunaFreya wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:20 am Males that can sexualise underage girls should not be working in a school
There was a comment on the Twitter thread I saw that effectively said if the male teachers are thinking about a 14yo that way then they should be out.
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YodaTheWrinkledOne wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:31 pm
marple wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:34 am If its anything like it was when I was there, then yes there were a lot of lovely male teachers, but quite a few that accidentally drop things very regularly
Are you serious???
Yes, absolutely. We laughed at the worst offender.
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Murderino wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:59 pm
LunaFreya wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:20 am Males that can sexualise underage girls should not be working in a school
There was a comment on the Twitter thread I saw that effectively said if the male teachers are thinking about a 14yo that way then they should be out.
I could say about the school near me 'if the teachers think getting personal with a student is ok they should not be in teaching' but that does not mean the teachers actually think this same as a 'a person who works for the local ANZ bank should not rob it' does not mean they were actually planning on robbing it
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Sorry what?

The principal intimated with her address that the male teachers would be sexually attracted to the girls because she said their jobs would be compromised by the girls.

So she is in fact suggesting there are male teachers there that would have sexual thoughts about their students - in which case they shouldn’t be teaching. This is not a controversial statement I would think?
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Murderino wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:34 pm Sorry what?

The principal intimated with her address that the male teachers would be sexually attracted to the girls because she said their jobs would be compromised by the girls.

So she is in fact suggesting there are male teachers there that would have sexual thoughts about their students - in which case they shouldn’t be teaching. This is not a controversial statement I would think?
My point is she said that, but did the teachers themselves say that to her first or was it just her decision alone to make the decision.

she said 'their jobs might be compromised' but whose idea was it to say it the principal or the teachers?
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Well that makes more sense - you are right if she said that with no grounds it is wrong.

Someone else on twitter suggested the males teachers might have recourse for the damage to their reputation caused by her insinuation, I have no idea if that would be true.
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Every school I’ve been to had a pervy teacher, modesty made no difference.
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marple wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:55 pm
Seayork2002 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:27 pm
Murderino wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:59 pm

There was a comment on the Twitter thread I saw that effectively said if the male teachers are thinking about a 14yo that way then they should be out.
I could say about the school near me 'if the teachers think getting personal with a student is ok they should not be in teaching' but that does not mean the teachers actually think this same as a 'a person who works for the local ANZ bank should not rob it' does not mean they were actually planning on robbing it
Seayork - this makes no sense and is irrelevant. WTH?
did the principal decide for the teachers themselves or did the teachers themselves make a point of it to the principal then the principal made her comments from that
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Seayork2002 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:57 pm
marple wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:55 pm
Seayork2002 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:27 pm

I could say about the school near me 'if the teachers think getting personal with a student is ok they should not be in teaching' but that does not mean the teachers actually think this same as a 'a person who works for the local ANZ bank should not rob it' does not mean they were actually planning on robbing it
Seayork - this makes no sense and is irrelevant. WTH?
did the principal decide for the teachers themselves or did the teachers themselves make a point of it to the principal then the principal made her comments from that
Do you mean: did the teachers go to the principal and say they didn’t like the girls clothing or did the principal just assume?

If that’s the question then I don’t think anyone has said either way.
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On reflection though, I’d consider it unlikely that the teachers went to the principal and were like, “Please! The teenage girls! My penis cannot cope with the constant arousal! Help me!”
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marple wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:34 am If its anything like it was when I was there, then yes there were a lot of lovely male teachers, but quite a few that accidentally drop things very regularly
Student or teacher?
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Kadoodle wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:30 pm
marple wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:34 am If its anything like it was when I was there, then yes there were a lot of lovely male teachers, but quite a few that accidentally drop things very regularly
Student or teacher?
It’s a girls school.
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Kadoodle wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:30 pm
marple wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:34 am If its anything like it was when I was there, then yes there were a lot of lovely male teachers, but quite a few that accidentally drop things very regularly
Student or teacher?
The post you quoted says the teachers?

Are you the school principal blaming the students?
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ALittleBitter wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:50 pm
Kadoodle wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:30 pm
marple wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:34 am If its anything like it was when I was there, then yes there were a lot of lovely male teachers, but quite a few that accidentally drop things very regularly
Student or teacher?
It’s a girls school.
I mean was @marple a student or a teacher there? There was a teacher at my high school who was notorious, and ended up being removed to an administrative position with the department of education after a girl a couple of years older than me slapped him.
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I must say I immediately jumped to that they must have at least one teacher there who the principal has her doubts about. Can't believe she said that with her out loud voice.
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When I went to school, many years ago the police came to an assembly which included such gems as. Keep your legs together sitting in the train and don’t wear black bras under your school shirt.

Our school was apparently a huge target for weirdos, many incidents of flashing ect in the parks

I really don’t think we have changed as much as we think we have in relation to views like this
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caitiri wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:18 pm When I went to school, many years ago the police came to an assembly which included such gems as. Keep your legs together sitting in the train and don’t wear black bras under your school shirt.

Our school was apparently a huge target for weirdos, many incidents of flashing ect in the parks

I really don’t think we have changed as much as we think we have in relation to views like this
In the mid 70s when I was in senior high school a new science building was being built. Our female principal called all the seniors into an assembly and told us we had to wear white bras under our white blouses as the builders would think we weren't wearing bras at all if we continued to wear the (back then) newly available flesh/beige coloured bras.
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That principal at the school, apparently one of my friends said her daughter was put down by this woman because she didn’t get high marks in maths

So maybe there are a few issues about her
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