STBG 2 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Mine are always done by a nurse but a GP.does a check before it's administeredI have never met or even seen the practice nurse at my GP. There are usually 6 GP's working through the day, it is a large practice but not a bulk billing clinic.Are practice nurses more common in bulk billing clinics? I'd be more than happy to have it done by a nurse though. Mine is definitely not bulk billing!! As per my previous comment, have only had the injections done by the nurse when we needed multiple for our first overseas jaunt, and saw the doctor who specialises in travel stuff at the clinic. There are about 8 x doctors there. We saw the practice nurse regularly with my daughter though, for asthma plans. Saw doctor first, detailed assessment with practice nurse (like 45 mins), then back to the doctor. I believe diabetics also have this process there. I guess my day will come then when I get to meet her or him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I have never met or even seen the practice nurse at my GP. There are usually 6 GP's working through the day, it is a large practice but not a bulk billing clinic.Are practice nurses more common in bulk billing clinics? I'd be more than happy to have it done by a nurse though. Mine is definitely not bulk billing!! As per my previous comment, have only had the injections done by the nurse when we needed multiple for our first overseas jaunt, and saw the doctor who specialises in travel stuff at the clinic. There are about 8 x doctors there. We saw the practice nurse regularly with my daughter though, for asthma plans. Saw doctor first, detailed assessment with practice nurse (like 45 mins), then back to the doctor. I believe diabetics also have this process there. I guess my day will come then when I get to meet her or him I know my MIL did, with about 8 x doctors at her medical centre. My mother didn't, with only two doctors (also country) so there are obviously economies of scale when these nurses are provided to clinics.Interestingly my daughter's asthma assessments were always bulk billed, whereas it's not remotely a bulk billing clinic, so i can only assume there are incentives to work this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsLaurie Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 The practice nurse at our GP clinic (no bulk billing, about 8 GPs at the clinic) has handled all of the childhood immunisations for my 2yo, and also wrangled the paperwork associated with a shared care plan with the speechie and paed for my 6yo. And she assisted the GP (handed over the tools, bandage etc) when I had an implanon inserted. Fairly varied role! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitmincepies Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 We’ve seen the nurse at the GP for vaccinations, practice for DD to use ventolin with a spacer (the GP was there at the start, then left us to practice with the nurse for help), and wound care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamferalz Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Mine are always done by a nurse but a GP.does a check before it's administeredI have never met or even seen the practice nurse at my GP. There are usually 6 GP's working through the day, it is a large practice but not a bulk billing clinic.Are practice nurses more common in bulk billing clinics? I'd be more than happy to have it done by a nurse though. There are quite a few bulk billing clinics in my area of Greater Sydney and the one I go to for my family doctor has a nurse who does the vaccines. She also administers first aid etc. The GP is involved via before and after supervision but continues to see other patients in the interim. He himself is a private GP who does selectively bulk bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STBG 2 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Mine are always done by a nurse but a GP.does a check before it's administeredI have never met or even seen the practice nurse at my GP. There are usually 6 GP's working through the day, it is a large practice but not a bulk billing clinic.Are practice nurses more common in bulk billing clinics? I'd be more than happy to have it done by a nurse though. There are quite a few bulk billing clinics in my area of Greater Sydney and the one I go to for my family doctor has a nurse who does the vaccines. She also administers first aid etc. The GP is involved via before and after supervision but continues to see other patients in the interim. He himself is a private GP who does selectively bulk bill. I have only been faithful to 2 different practices for 40 years so therefore I am totally unaware of what is happening elsewhere although I have used a bulk billed once or twice when it was urgent and mine was shut.My doctor has gone from the first one which only had a nurse/receptionist but it was smallish and the GP did almost everything to the current one which is a huge practice that I know does have practice nurses as I have seen a sign to the room.I wonder if it is because I have been seeing her for 40 years and we both almost grew up in motherhood together that she just does it all herself for me?I would have no problem seeing a nurse, it looks as though they are the norm now and they must take the load off in a busy practice and will be a real bonus when they undertake the COVID vaccination program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie3Girls Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Our clinic has a nurse, but injections are variable - sometimes the go, sometimes the nurse. When the kids were little and needed two, it was the go and the nurse, one on each side. Both are qualified to do it. I’m some places, one or the other might be more experienced to do it. Flu vaccinations have been at the local chemist.And as for bulk billing ... I don’t know of any bulk billing clinics near me. Simply not an option. The local gp clinics will selectively bulk bill - I think one bulk bills under 16. Mine with bulk bill as the drs discretion - generally mental health appts with be, as will follow up appts for the same issue.It’s going to be interesting to see how the vaccinations roll out locally - given how all our local gps are booked solid for a couple of weeks, it will be interesting to see how they are going to flow through vaccinations, I know the last couple of years it’s been waiting lists just to get the regular flu vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Our clinic has a nurse, but injections are variable - sometimes the go, sometimes the nurse. When the kids were little and needed two, it was the go and the nurse, one on each side. Both are qualified to do it. I’m some places, one or the other might be more experienced to do it. Flu vaccinations have been at the local chemist.And as for bulk billing ... I don’t know of any bulk billing clinics near me. Simply not an option. The local gp clinics will selectively bulk bill - I think one bulk bills under 16. Mine with bulk bill as the drs discretion - generally mental health appts with be, as will follow up appts for the same issue.It’s going to be interesting to see how the vaccinations roll out locally - given how all our local gps are booked solid for a couple of weeks, it will be interesting to see how they are going to flow through vaccinations, I know the last couple of years it’s been waiting lists just to get the regular flu vaccination. The MH appointments are funded differently. Same with whatever the current name is for the extra ancilliary services. My GP said she was bulk billing me (don't tell reception!), but when I just happened to be looking up something on my medicare records in the following days, hundreds of dollars had been provided for the appointment.The absurdity is the government imagining any decent GP can provide a thorough service to all patients for the bulk billing amount. I live in a well off area, and our GP now only selectively bulk bills. It's because most people pay $85 per standard appointment though, that they have the leeway to bulk bill other times. We actually ended up with the most senior doctor when our daughter had a bad case of Glandular Fever (with a HCC - 23yo student) and he was able to give her an amazing amount of time.Yeah, I remember flu last year being a bit chaotic?? I know we were on a list at the GP and had to wait for the dose, but two of ours were over 65, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie3Girls Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 It’s the flu vac situation last year that makes me think there is no way the Covid vax will be done by their planned schedule. Dd needed to have hers in order to do her work placement in childcare, and it was a struggle - we were on multiple waiting lists for her, and I know people in her class who weren’t able to get theirs in time. Just the sheer time requirements of getting people in for two shots months apart, particularly in regional and rural areas where gps are stretched so thin just with their normal workload. I know it will happen, but I think it is going to take longer that the govt is planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsLaurie Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 I hope the council vaccinations method (like used for some of the standard kids shots) will be used for the COVID vax, as you can properly get decent volumes done in a day with a big hall and decent admin set up. Could potentially be run either with pre-booked or drop-in appointments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonMyrtle Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 One of the reasons we get immunised at our GP is because the wait times at the free council run sessions was too long. Sometimes an hour or more, with young babies in tow. Horrendous.Obviously they could scale-up for covid shots. But to immunise everyone that wants it, it will be more like the flu shot. We will have doctors, chemists, workplaces, council, every reasonable avenue available will have to offer it. I don’t know what the current timeline is (anyone have a link?) but I can’t see it happening inside a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonMyrtle Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Found a quote. ScoMo says everyone that wants it should be able to get it “by October”. 8 months. It’s ambitious, that’s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsLaurie Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Current timeline has all willing adults vaccinated with at least their first shot by October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 I hope the council vaccinations method (like used for some of the standard kids shots) will be used for the COVID vax, as you can properly get decent volumes done in a day with a big hall and decent admin set up. Could potentially be run either with pre-booked or drop-in appointments. I love the images from churches in the UK, being used as vaccination centres. Perfect set up. A few private rooms, plenty of areas where you can group people waiting, plenty of seats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iavy Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Both my teen DDs needed vaccinations during lockdown. Usually done at school (no school). The local hall was used and we booked a 15 min window online. Quick check in, 2nd check of details , through to the nurse, then to the waiting area with chairs spread out. No wait time. They must have done lots all day! It was very efficient so surely they will be similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 When/if I have my covid vax I need to have it done in a hospital setting due to the high possibility of reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplekitty Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 South African strain in Canberra Quarantine.Argument for not using AZ vaccine in frontline personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lees75 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 This is not in response to your post at all, PK, as I agree with you. My friend’s sister’s family in England have currently all got COVID, except for the one person in the household who had the AZ vaccine. The young adults only had cold like symptoms, but my friend’s sister said she has never felt so sick and that it is way worse than when she was admitted to hospital with pneumonia in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 This is not in response to your post at all, PK, as I agree with you. My friend’s sister’s family in England have currently all got COVID, except for the one person in the household who had the AZ vaccine. The young adults only had cold like symptoms, but my friend’s sister said she has never felt so sick and that it is way worse than when she was admitted to hospital with pneumonia in the past. That's awful for her. There are going to be so many ramifications in the coming years, from those with lingering issues from having had Covid. I have Raynaud's, and in the worldwide group I'm in, there are so many new members who've developed it after Covid, and that's just one, relatively minor issue compared with all of the other long Covid issues I've read about. What fantastic news about the person having had the vaccine though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 From The Guardian, people with long Covid in the UK:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/05/theres-a-lot-of-nasty-stuff-the-people-living-with-long-covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonMyrtle Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Different disease (not even a virus), but I had whooping cough when I was 14ish, and my lungs were never the same again. For years and years every cold I got turned into a long lingering cough. Finally improved in my 20s.Now, I believe that’s because whooping cough kills off the tiny little things inside your lungs and they take a year at least to grow back. There can be scars too.Do they know exactly what covid attacks yet? Like, specifically how it makes you sick? Not just how symptoms progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lees75 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Positive wastewater results in Adelaide CBD and the Bolivar catchment. The CBD catchment is not the one that the new dedicated COVID facility is in, but other medical-hotels are in the catchment, so possibly an old case/shedding. Not sure about the Bolivar one, although that is the massive treatment plant, so possibly related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelina Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I was watching the Italian news on SBS earlier, and they did a video montage to commemorate the one-year anniversary of the first lockdown there. I remember so clearly how shocking and horrifying it seemed in Italy at the time - the death rate rising and rising, pages and pages of death notices, hospitals full, and then with the lockdown the entire country not allowed to leave their homes, everything closed, people singing on balconies and lining up to go to the supermarket.Still kind of hard to believe what's happened since then, and how it's no longer shocking (although perhaps still horrifying to us), but rather normal around most of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seayork2002 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 We get ours done (well not covid yet) at the nurses station at our doctors surgery, it is like a hospital in there they have 2 beds as well as the main nurse computer bit and a waiting area I have had my leg looked at there when DS banged his head and DH had breathing tests and my ears syringed I love it there, well as much as having medical things done can be loved that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seayork2002 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Different disease (not even a virus), but I had whooping cough when I was 14ish, and my lungs were never the same again. For years and years every cold I got turned into a long lingering cough. Finally improved in my 20s.Now, I believe that’s because whooping cough kills off the tiny little things inside your lungs and they take a year at least to grow back. There can be scars too.Do they know exactly what covid attacks yet? Like, specifically how it makes you sick? Not just how symptoms progress? Yeah DH breathing problems a couple of years ago then his chest hurt so we went for all sorts of tests and the doctor diagnosed whooping cough took nearly a year to fully recover, he got over pneumonia faster but that hit him harder but whooping cough was longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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